Update 12/16/11 the video and transcript of what Graham said is here.
The Senate is discussing Indefinite Detainment once more right now on CSPAN.
http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/
Ayotte was just talking and said we have to be able to detain U.S. citizens just as she has said before.
She asked Graham to comment on it.
Graham just now got on the floor - Once again he called the U.S. a Battlefield.
3:40 PM He is saying terrorist want to destroy the country
(Terrorist don't need to do it because the domestic terrorist in D.C. are doing it themselves)
Graham is saying it is not right terrorist have rights.
I just can't believe all that Graham is saying - it is unfrickin believable!
Says people getting radicalize through the internet and want to harm their own government.
Ayotte is playing the game with him this time like Levin did last time - it is a back and forth saying how wonderful this bill is.
All Graham can do is keep mentioning the Christmas shoe bomber as the reason for the bill!
He is saying THE U.S. NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO KILL U.S. CITIZENS WHO ARE ENEMY COMBATANTS!
As soon as this is available I will be posting it!
UNBELIEVABLE! NOT JUST INDEFINITE DETAINMENT - HE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO KILL U.S. CITIZENS TOO!
3:59PM - he just finished - Levin is now on the floor.
So Graham doesn't just think U.S. citizens should be held without rights indefinitely he also said we should be able to KILL them for being enemy combatants which the bill gives them that right!
SO.... Am I correct in him saying in the bill it ALSO gives the U.S. Rights to Kill who they want without trials also??!!!!
He yielded the floor - they are doing roll call - 4:02 PM
So - the video when it is available needs to go Viral of Graham talking about how the bill not just allows indefinite detainment but killing people too.
UPDATE 6:01 PM est - Here is the video - best I can tell it starts around the 6 hour and 19 minute mark of Graham speaking. It is buffering up for me it has not started yet. I don't know how to cut that part and copy it from CSPAN.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/SenateSession4962
Here is the video - I can now embed it, but I still have not been able to ever get it buffered up to the place he begins talking - I have tried to get it to the 6 hour mark.
Update 12/16/11 - HERE IT IS - GRAHAM ON THE SENATE FLOOR
| 06:18:39 IF YOU'RE AN AL QAEDA OPERATIVE, YOU COULD GET KILLED EVEN IF YOU'RE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN BY ASSISTING THE ENEMY AT HOME OR ABROAD. | |
| 06:18:48 | SO DON'T JOIN AL QAEDA BECAUSE YOU COULD LOSE YOUR LIFE, AND IF YOU DO GET CAPTURED, YOU CAN BE HELD INDEFINITELY UNDER THE LAW OF WAR BECAUSE YOU'VE COMMITTED AN ACT OF WAR. |
Edit to note 6:28 PM - I have been trying to get the video to play at the 6 hour mark, you can see that Graham is up talking on the left side of the page - due to the remarks at the 6:19 mark. The video I have put the mark in and mark out at that point but it will not buffer up to it. It will not let me embed the video and I do not know how to capture it. I hope someone else can get this portion out where Graham starts talking about U.S. rights to kill those who they believe are terrorist - even U.S. citizens!
Added 8:22PM - The U.S. government obviously arranged for this to pass on this day! Why do I say that?
Because today is the anniversary of the U.S. Bill of Rights! So those who control it all, has gotten a really good laugh at how they have taken down the U.S. from the inside out and did a Big F U To the American People! To pass a bill that takes away the U.S. Citizens Rights on the day that the Bill of Rights were signed!
Aren't they just so clever?! But...... Once people become aware of what happened and believe me I told a group of "soccer" moms tonight about it! They had NO Clue and had not even heard of this before! I told them what the government did and that they needed to do research on it to see I told them the truth and then they needed to tell everyone they knew about it!
If they kill you, who is going to be there to press charges? They'll probably be completely unidentifiable, and wearing ski masks too!
ReplyDeleteIf someone is in the middle of carrying out a terrorist attack, then normal laws apply -- they can be taken out. But that's apparently not enough for Graham -- and people should be asking themselves WHY. Why would you kill them when they're NOT currently engaged in a terrorist act? If they're terrorists, they'd presumably have information of great value to the authorities.
It's not about terrorism. It's about these self-appointed servants of God -- seeking to separate the 'sheep from the goats'. That's why Bush was reading about Goats on 9/11.
So are you going to go with them like a trusting lamb? Oh did the letter writing fail?
ReplyDeleteYou heard Graham, right Sherrie? Who did 9-11? Me? Tim Osman? Bob Dylan? JFK?
ReplyDeleteThat last one was as tame as they get.
ReplyDeleteIt is a rather sad and pathetic sight to watch Mr. Graham acting out because those controllers who are paranoid are calling in the chips on Mr. Graham. Mr. Graham is reported to be a closet homosexual and there are rumors that Mr. Graham may be a homosexual pedophile as well. If these allegations turn out to be true, then it would appear that the paranoid controllers of Mr. Graham and others are essentially putting a gun to Mr. Graham's head and forcing Mr. Graham to make these outrageous statements. While Mr. Graham probably does not even want to be saying these things, the position he may have placed himself in may have resulted in an extremely compromised position, evidenced by his rather unlawful, treasonous and seemingly delusional stance. Something is up with this. While Mr. Graham may have placed himself in this position as a consequence of his conduct, one should nonetheless understand the statements within the context of his conduct.
ReplyDeleteSeems to me that the USA is in the hands of a tyrannical and murderous regime.
ReplyDeleteWell the world has seen what the cure for these regimes is.
Mass bombing from 30,000 feet on the civilian population. Missiles and DU falling all around.
The dragging off of the leadership off to some kangaroo court.
Sanctions to starve you, destruction of your homes and national infrastructure.
White phosporous to burn you alive - the people of Gaza can attest to its efficiency.
So I presume that as this is what the citizens of so many countries have endured at the hands of the USA and NATO, the American people can hardly now object if the rest of the world were to give you a dose of your own medicine.
After all you have assured us that such mass murder of innocent people works and as Madeleine Albright said of half a million dead Iraqi children - it was a price worth paying.
I am sure Americans crying over half a million dead children would agree with her assessment after all no one has held her or any other American war criminals accountable.
You would then understand that by killing and injuring up to 30 or more percent of a population, leaving them hungry and homeless and defenceless constitutes a mass war crime.
Many would find it rather satisfying to see the biter bit.