Update 12/2/11 - Solution to the Treason
UPDATE - 11/29/11 - 5:15PM EST - The Senate voted FOR THE BILL! THEY HAVE COMMITTED TREASON AND THEY ARE NOW THE TERRORIST AGAINST THE U.S. PEOPLE!
UPDATE 11/30/11 - SIGN THE PETITION TO IMPEACH ALL THE SENATORS WHO COMMITTED TREASON AGAINST THE U.S. PEOPLE AND THE CONSTITUTION!
UPDATE **** C-SPAN has it live right now on T.V. 4:17 Pm est ***
Al Franken is speaking saying "This is not the way to do it - he does not support the bill and he supports Udall's amendment and co-sponsored it taking out the detention of U.S. citizens. ****
I know I turned it on late, it seems that is all they are doing on the floor now, no one else is getting up to speak and they have cut to music. I do not know who else got up for or against the bill at this time.
I found this -
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/195889-sens-paul-mccain-clash-over-terrorist-detainee-amendment-
Seems McCain has clashed with others over the bill on the floor today.
Portion from above - Senate floor today:
I don't think it necessarily follows I am arguing of the release of prisoners,” Paul said. “I am simply arguing that particularly American citizens should not be sent to a foreign prison without due process.”
But McCain ended the conversation by suggesting the junior senator from Kentucky did not understand the gravity of the danger the U.S. faces from terrorism.
"An individual, no matter who they are, if they pose a threat to the security of the United States of America, should not be allowed to continue that threat," said McCain. " We need to take every stop necessary to prevent that from happening, that’s for the safety and security of the men and women who are out there risking their lives ... in our armed services.”
McCain feels anyone and everyone who is a threat to the security of the U.S. should be detained and held for the rest of their lives without due process! Wasn't he a POW?! - how would he have liked being held forever and never released because that country thought he was a threat?! Also what makes a person a threat? Speaking their mind? Adhering to the constitution?
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I just posted how FOX news (video) has brought the McCain/Levin bill to light to the general public and I am impressed.
Also see the original post about how the U.S. military could hold and detain a U.S. Citizen for the rest of their lives without trial or rights.
This is a battle for the country now! The end game is here. People need to understand, this is it! With the economy crashing and the Euro about to go down the "elite" are playing out the end game! Stand up - at least you will have tried to do something to save the country and others by making your voice heard!
Go to the ACLU site and sign the letter to go to your Senator - that is the least you can do!
https://secure.aclu.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=3865&s_subsrc=fixNDAA
I am stating now - ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO VOTES FOR THIS BILL WILL BE COMMITTING TREASON AGAINST THE U.S. CITIZENS - In my opinion!
WE THE PEOPLE WILL NEED TO SUE AND CHARGE EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO VOTES FOR THE BILL WITH TREASON! I AM SERIOUS!
The Hill has an article about this - it PASSED through the Armed Services committee of the Senate and Reid is bringing to to the floor on a cloture vote!!!
Portions:
After the Armed Services Committee passed the bill 26-0 earlier this month, the White House threatened to veto it if the detainee portions were not altered.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) plans to hold a cloture vote Wednesday for the defense authorization bill, and the Senate hopes to wrap up the bill with a final vote by Thursday, Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.) said Monday.
Levin is not backing down from the fight, and he took it public on Monday along with ranking member Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), as the pair penned a Washington Post op-ed calling their approach to terror detention a “balanced” one.
Levin and McCain have disagreed, arguing their legislation gives the administration “broad authority to decide who is covered by this provision and how and when such a decision is made.”
Levin and McCain are now looking to press on this week, and with a busy December ahead, Reid appears ready to move the bill through the Senate. Levin and McCain talked on the Senate floor Monday about their eagerness to move quickly through a slew of more than 100 amendments.
“We’re not going have more than this week for this bill,” Levin said.
Many of those amendments seek to alter or strip out the detainee provisions from the bill. Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.), an Armed Services member, has said his amendments would prevent a veto. But McCain and Levin oppose any major changes to the legislation’s detainee provisions, including Udall’s amendments.
Thank God - McCain did NOT become the President!
MCCAIN AND LEVIN YOU HAVE COMMITTED TREASON AGAINST THE U.S PEOPLE - REID IF YOU BRING THIS TO VOTE ON THE FLOOR YOU TOO WILL BE COMMITTING TREASON - EVERYONE OF YOU IN THE SENATE WHO VOTE FOR THIS WILL BE COMMITTING TREASON!~
WE THE PEOPLE WILL FIGHT THE TREASON! WE WILL ONLY TAKE SO MUCH! WE THE PEOPLE WILL HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL LAWYERS WE CAN CONTACT AND ASK FOR TREASON TRIALS TO BE HELD AGAINST ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO VOTE FOR THIS BILL!
Everyone needs to understand a couple of hundred people who are controlled by the banks and corporations are ruling 300,000,000 people and inacting laws against the people! We the People have a right to elected officials that are "For the People"! We do not have elected officials anymore "For the People", we have elected officials "Against the People"! At what point will THE people understand what is going on? We the People pay the elected officials to do what is right for the country and "For the people" they are not doing it anymore! Vote EVERYONE of them OUT - VOTE FOR YOUR NEIGHBOR - DO NOT VOTE FOR ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT HAS HELD OFFICE IN ANY CAPACITY - THEY ARE ALL OWNED AND ARE NOT FOR THE PEOPLE IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM! Change WHO is in Office and Change our Government!
I have no doubt I would be picked up by the military and held for the rest of my life if this bill passes!
Here is what it says:
Here is what the bill says: this was inserted on GLP
b) Covered Persons- A covered person under this section is any person as follows:
(1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks.
(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.
SEC. 5. DETENTION WITHOUT TRIAL OF UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BELLIGERENTS.
An individual, including a citizen of the United States, determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent under section 3(c)(2) ... may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners in which the individual has engaged, or which the individual has purposely and materially supported, consistent with the law of war and any authorization for the use of military force provided by Congress pertaining to such hostilities.
Anyone who has stood up for the constitution or raised their voice against what the government is doing, would be in this category! ONLY the frickin Asleep Idiots who couldn't care less and don't want to be distracted from their sports or watching their mindless T.V. shows will be kept - because they are controlled! I am including my family in this category! My mother this morning, when I told her about this.... couldn't be bothered and didn't want information on it.... because it would "ruin" her attitude for the day and she needed to sell furniture! THAT is what we are dealing with.... IDIOTS who would rather stay STUPID to the truth! Selling furniture is more important to her than the Freedoms and the Fight for the Country! Unfrickin believable!
At least I will know I tried to do something for the U.S. and everyone! I will continue too! Come what may!
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Two questions about this....
First - What will the Police do when their jobs are taken away from them?
Second - Will the military people go along with this? Will they start rounding up U.S. Citizens because they were told to, without the citizens actually doing anything against normal laws?
Looks as if 26 are already guilty of treason. They will not stop until they are forced to stop. Make of that what you will.
ReplyDeleteYou are correct - 26 of them have committed Treason now!
ReplyDeleteThis is a fight for the country now. This is the final straw that the government will do against the people and the constitution.
this is where the FEMA camps now come into play!
The ones that did 911 say it's OK.
ReplyDeleteThe ones that have day traders in their office say it's OK.
The ones that are foreign agents say it's OK.
WHAT the HELL's wrong with you PEONS!
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The U.S. Senate is considering the unthinkable: changing detention laws to imprison people — including Americans living in the United States itself — indefinitely and without charge.
The Defense Authorization bill is now on the Senate floor with troubling provisions that would give the President — and all future presidents — the authority to indefinitely imprison people, without charge or trial, both abroad and inside the United States and would mandate military detention of some civilians who would otherwise be outside of military control. The indefinite detention without charge or trial provisions are so harmful that the Obama White House has threatened to veto the bill if they are not removed from it.
SEND TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW.
Urge your senators to vote YES on the Udall amendment to the Defense Authorization bill which would remove the harmful provisions from the bill and in their place, mandate a process for Congress to use an orderly process to consider whether any detention legislation is needed.
Sign the petition to tell the conniving senate no to indefinate
What? Hopefully, this is not the first time you have realized your representatives are a pack of lying, weaseling,inside-trading, gun-running, money-skimming, treasonous crooks.
ReplyDeleteAnd how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!
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I think its too late. 99.9% of the American people don't have any idea what is going on here. Most people, certainly every Fox new devotee, has been totally mentally bullied and brainwashed into thinking that anybody that even suggests the obvious that 9-11 was red flag intelligence operation fully sanctioned by our beloved leaders, is a complete lunatic or terrorist. Ergo if you even Question the validity of the biggest con job in history the always popular always mentioned war on terror, your now a possible suspected terrorist. A real good litmus test will be if the Udall amendment to the Defense authorization bill is killed or not.
ReplyDeleteThe Udall bill was defeated on Tuesday 11/29/11 - today 12/1/11 - was the defeat of the Feinstein bill taking out the term U.S. Citizen on U.S. soil.
ReplyDeletethe Senate committed Treason on both days!
hey Sherrie how about you send a nice letter off and petition these criminals to respect your rights. that will do the trick.
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Wow, I just love it when people call me names, like idiot etc. It does not bother me at all. It only shows the intelligence of those who are calling other people names.
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