UPDATE 2/17/11 - Link to My interview 2/17/11 with David Morgan regarding the RED ALERT email and Fake gold and silver issues.
I received an email with the words "RED ALERT". I received this from someone heavily involved and an expert in the metals and mining. I highly respect both men involved, as they know and always tell the truth about what is happening in the world of metals.
David Morgan
Roger Wiegand
Both David Morgan and Roger Wiegand are about Truth of the metals market and do not sensationalize their information. So when I received this Red Alert email, I have confidence in this actually being very real in potential.
Roger Wiegand sent out a RED ALERT email to other metal experts/analysis, due to information from multiple high level inside sources of his, of the potential of confiscation of gold and silver from the American Public, this year for a new world currency.
Roger and I have exchanged a couple of emails regarding this Red Alert, with my asking permission to publish it. He has given me the green light to release this to the public, as long as I made sure to say this is not absolute, but a potential from his high placed inside sources.
This is the email sent out - without any changes and exact!
RED ALERT
Editor: There is a plan to use the IMF (AKA US Treasury and Wall Street) to be the front man for the new world order and one currency. We also got disturbing news yesterday from an impeccable source that when gold touches $2,000 it’s confiscated in the USA for about $200. Then it’s to be reissued by the Treasury for $10,000 per ounce to back the new IMF world currency using SDRS in 2011. Large physical gold is being moved to Canada. http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/10/markets/dollar/index.htm
I very much thank both David Morgan and Roger Wiegand for allowing me to post this information as I believe it will help all who read it to become aware of what is being discussed as a potential of future events.
The article in the email links to the IMF calling for a new trading currency in place of the U.S. dollar. The writing is on the wall. I just have to ask, has everyone been paying attention? Also when an email like this goes out from a very well respected metals expert to other experts in the field, everyone should sit up and pay attention!
UPDATE - 2/15/11 - David Morgan will be interviewed on the Radio today 2/15/11starting at 2pm est - Turning Hard times into Good Times with Jay Taylor. I do not know if he will be discussing this email on it. The Headline for the show is "Gold or Silver, when the Dollar crashes". UPDATE 2pm EST ***David Morgan's interview is just about to start***
Very interesting post. How could they legitimately offer only $200 per ounce when the metal is $2000? There's no legal way the govt. could do that (not that 'legal" has anything to do anything these days).
ReplyDeleteThey'd have to offer at least $2000 per ounce or whatever the then current market price for gold, then you'd miss the next 5x increase in value and of course they'd have to make gold illegal to own AGAIN. Good luck with that one. Fool me once....
Agreed... this is down right ludicrous. The only way I could see this occuring is through the use of stock holdings.
ReplyDeleteWhat could they do... confiscate people's gold rings? Crazy! Who in their right mind would accept $200 for something worth $2000.
It does seem ludicrous. But think about this. What if the govt. puts a 90% tax on all gold silver sales? Then gold at $2000 then is only worth 200 to you. Then it is not even worthwhile for you to hold metals. Remember it was illegal for citizens to own gold until the late 70s. Who says they won't make it illegal again?
ReplyDeleteSound crazy? Well, 10 years ago, would it have sounded crazy that the govt. illegally wiretapped, tortured, could hold us without trial for as long as they wanted?
In other words, those things that sound crazy now are actually a possibility. I would not put anything past a govt. that is desperate.
The confiscation strategy won't be used on individuals per se, but rather on gold holdings. This will include the banks, miners, etf's, etc. This gives them a gateway to liquify temporarily until after the reset. After the reset the bullion banks get their gold back (they held it all along), the miners don't hold gold so it's essentially a nationalization of what's in the ground and they'll be paid handsomely for it and the ETF's will be busted anyway so it's an exit ramp for them (due to short positions and backwardation of the Comex).
ReplyDeleteAs far as consumers, gold dealers, etc. it will just be so highly regulated that it will be tough to buy and sell precious metals because they'll be lumped in with the war on terror as the currency of terrorists. Regulation and taxes will impede the liquidity (on the consumer level) and provide for closer tracking of holdings by the government. You'll have a chance to cash in at a higher redemption rate prior to the reset which a lot of people will do. Those that don't will find it more difficult to sell their gold here in the States.
Keep in mind the IMF is proposing two currencies. One for wealth and one for transactions to mitigate systemic risk. The transactional one won't be based on a fractional reserve system. It's the store of wealth system that will have a new global gold backing.
Good luck trying to get around this. Anything you buy with a credit/debit card or any wealth you store in a paper-based asset (mutual fund, 401k, etc.) will be subject to the new global 2-part SDR.
There are solutions, but they require an entirely new set of values and a recognition of the importance of community and neighbors in the scheme of understanding what wealth is. You can read more about the plan here: http://tradewithdave.com/?p=5310 and here: http://tradewithdave.com/?p=5262
Dave Harrison
tradewithdave.com
Bull shit. Of course if they try they will have one hell of a battle called Revolution on their hands. Back in the 30's we trusted them and they got away with it. However today we don't trust any of them. The banksters that run our country can try to impose any legislation they want but one thing they can never take away is our freedom of choice. We will chose liberty and freedom over tyranny just look at Egypt. There is more of us than them. Guess what? They know it. Electronically they can manipulate, turn on turn off anything they want. But with physical PM's they can not. How? Gun point? Maybe that is why they want our guns it sure isn't to preserve the Republic that they are already destroying trillions of dollars at at time. Those that pick up a gun to put down the free will die by the sword and you can count on it. Our own military children question why they are where they are now. They also know they should not be there. When it comes down to it they will point the gun at the real enemy. Those that try to enslave us are the real enemy.
ReplyDeleteThe people will rebel and while the docile US citizen has not been seen or heard from the time is near. When this corrupt government attempts to destroy the fabric of our lives everyone in every sentence they utter will refute this tyranny and protect our children and our families the best we can.
ReplyDeleteI do beleive the gov. will make a hard play to get all gold and possibly silver. They will likely impose taxes, or possibly even penalty's for holding it after a certain time. One thing is for certain, most people wont turn it over to the gov. but what are we going to do with it, if we cant trade it or sell it for goods after the dollar collapse. A wise man once told me that you cant eat gold and silver !! I'm buying as much as I can afford but I dont know if I'm even doing the right thing anymore........
ReplyDeleteGov't at the door: Hello we are here to take your gold and silver..
ReplyDeleteYou: yes sir please come in, would you like some coffee?
Gov't: No thanks, where is your bullion
You: Well sir I have some buried outside and some under my bed, shall I dig it up?
Gov't: Yes, right away, you're a good citizen
You: Yes I obey whatever the Gov't says. Here it is, all of it.
Gov't: Thanks, have a nice day.
You: WAIT! I have more! Please come back!
LOL Yeah, I see that real easily happening! LOL NOT! Thanks for the Laugh!
ReplyDeleteThey will be going door to door. All gold and silver purchases will be confiscated and they will know who owns it by the coin dealers records. They are going for them first. The bible says your gold and silver will rust. Don't trust it, trust God and the KJV bible.
ReplyDeleteStock-up on food, water, seeds. Manure and worms to make your soil full of bacteria which will make the plants nutritious. Guns first, gold second, confiscation of your private property and then total destruction. Think of Dresdan..14 hours burning to death "innocent" people. 500,000 people destroyed by the USA and Britian. They want us dead too. But we are eternal through the blood of Jesus Christ. With the tongue confession is made unto salvation if you believe that JC died and rose from the dead for your sins, you shall be saved. Pray now to God that you accept his perfect sacrifice Jesus Christ as Your Savior.
It is appointment once for man to die once and then the Judgement. Make sure your name is written in the Book of Life. Peace and Love to you all. If not delivered from these crimes we shall see the other side in all its glory with God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.
For those out there that think that "confiscation" cannot happen, READ YOUR HISTORY BOOKS! Are you really that dumb? (yes) When has govt ever worked in the sincere, honest interest of its citizens? Again, READ YOUR HISTORY, specifically, try U.S. and world history on that one. And for the person above who states that folks won't tolerate govt intrusion via confiscation, READ YOUR HISTORY! The folks (ordinary Americans) who stood up against England were far and few. Less than 1/3rd of Americans stood up to fight, while the rest of the sad Americans "did not want to get involved." Folks, the writing is on the wall, but if you INSIST on lots and lots of proof, then so be it, just don't come to me asking for a handout of food or shelter when you've realized your mistakes. If ya wanna keep your gold/silver, then hide it somewhere safe and stock up on things you need to ride this storm out, cuz it looks like this coming storm will last a long, long time.
ReplyDeleteYou will be lucky if they give you $200.00 per U.S. authorized and minted products.
ReplyDeleteTechnically, the U.S. Government only needs to pay you $42.22 per oz as that is the value that congress has set for one oz of gold. This value is confirmed by the Treasury Books ( http://www.fms.treas.gov/gold/current.html )
Also, Section 2 (b) of the Rooselvelt EO 6102 is the important part. I personally consider all minted gold as having a special "rare" value.
http://www.fms.treas.gov/gold/current.html
Bring it on President Barry
Along the same lines as above.....
ReplyDeleteHR1491 - signed into law 3/9/1933 recodified the Trading with the Enemies act of 1917 (USC 12 - 95A) as USC 12 - 95B, which gave the FDR administration the ablity to treat US Citizens as enemies of the state and confiscate their gold, as if they were foreign nationals of a country we were at war with.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Emergency_Banking_Relief_Act
It also started the ability of a President to issue Executive Orders and bypass constitutional guidelines and appproval.
When Congress voted to pass HR-1491, they voted themselves out of the loop and gave up their ability to act as representatives of the citizens.
Apparently, this didn't bother them much, as they have turned representation into personal profit ever since.
Pre 1933 gold was defined as "Curio" and was to be exempt from future confiscation.
The price was confiscated around $20.00 per ounce, and gold was revalued (I believe to around $35.00 per oz) after the confiscation, which effectively inflated away part of the debt. If my memory is correct, 75% if the National Debt was inflated away by the revaluation.
It has twice since been revalued, whenever it became expediate to inflate away part of the debt.
If Prez Barry confiscates, and then sets the price to around $88.00, we will have no national debt.
Unfortunately, we will have all the guns of the world, in which we wrecked their individual economies with FRNS, pointed down our throat.
With their backing bonds worth zero, they will no longer be subject to our economic terrorism, such as we have imposed upon them, starting in 1933, and accelerating in 1971 when Bretton Woods sundowned.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretton_Woods_system
Our main export has been inflation for some time now. Mexico and China have been our biggest importers, but we have spread plenty around with every Fed cash dump on 7 year schedule (to foil counterfeiters; don't ya know).
The trade imbalance, and migrant workers who send the m ajority of thier wages out of the contry to sponsor more family members illegal entrance to the US job market are the mules that carry our inflation away and make it transparent to the nation.
We are told we have very low inflation, but a trip to the grocery store and grade school mathematics apptitude tell a different story.
This is all off the cuff, and from memory, so there may be minor innacuracies. I am sure there are spelling errors.
However, it does convey the broad strokes
I have added some URLs to fill in the blanks and correct any lapses of memory on my part.
One comment stated that if he didnt turn in his gold, and the dollar collapsed, he wouldnt be able to trade his gold for goods. That is exactly the opposite of what would happen! Think about this for a moment....no U.S. dollar, no taxes....no taxes, no government oversights (not effective at least). I feel a strong obligation to my family...to provide for them during any times...good or bad. The chances to provide for my family during a total U.S. monetary collapse increases greatly if I hold onto any gold rather than being a "good citizen" and turning it in.
ReplyDeleteSince 1986, the U.S. government has happily, and voluntarily sold me government produced gold bullion. This bullion was not sold as a "bond" or "treasury" with the implication that someday I would have to redeem it back to the issuing government. It was sold as a commodity that I can do with as I please. To now "ask" for it back under force of law would be criminal. There are plenty of other assets that people have chosen to purchase in order to combat inflation. Imagine if the U.S. government demanded all works of art, classic autos, vacation homes, and land be sold to them at a rate of 10% of fair market value "or else". At that point we stop being a democracy, and turn into a dictatorship, or even much worse.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous posted:
ReplyDeleteThink of Dresdan..14 hours burning to death "innocent" people. 500,000 people destroyed by the USA and Britian"
Don't forget that the Bosch fire-stormed London first, or didn't that really happen.
Get your facts right pal.
O'abamanation said...........
ReplyDeleteAll we hear is how America is free. How America is a beacon to the rest of the world in humanitarian justice. Always we meddle in foreign affairs as to make it look as we are interested in empowering "FREEDOM" to the world. WHAT A JOKE! All these wars are not about freedom, but Money, Power & Control. Is taking or Taxing away precious metals from hard working Americans Freedom? I think not. What hypocrisy!
The problem is not the Red, White & Blue. Its not the brave souls that serve our Military.(Yeah the ones that Henry Kissinger refer to as dogs to do our bidding, "THATS WHY WE GIVE THEM DOG TAGS" Nice reference Henry! It is not Capitalism, It is not our Constitution. It is not our belief in God or the great citizens within our borders. It is not racism, country folk, Rednecks or hillbillies as the aristocracies of our society refer to us. At least the ones that do not eat from they're buffet of lies, and remember its "ALL YOU CAN EAT & KIDS ALWAYS EAT FREE" .
It is the corruption that has hijacked this country and its been going on for some time. The same powers that hijacked Britain and left the British people in a downward spiral. Its like a puppet show for the British sheepal, as if Queen Elizabeth is in control. The new high standards that free terrorists for billions in oil contracts with Libya. Smells like World and Central Banks to me.
The same corruption is right here ripping the heart out of this great country and its people. This is nothing more than a stepping stone. First tame Britain, Socialize Europe, then implode America(LIKE A DEAD BLOATED FISH) & next NWO! (FOR ALL YOU SHEEPAL NEW WORLD ORDER)
Just remember we started here with a three tier system (God,People & then Government). How did we end up with a four tier system (God(I can assure you it is not my God), Aristocracies, Government & then how convenient people come last). Maybe we can use our reference from our Marxist scholars (because they are so intellectual) "THE MASSES".
I really do not quite know where I am going with this, I guess letting off some steam. This is actually suppose to be about PM's(precious metals). I will say desperate Governments will do desperate things. Personally I do not trust any of them. Yes I do believe they will confiscate Gold and silver and for that matter our constitution as well.
The sad part is the Elite (WORLD & CENTRAL BANKS) understand the psychological make up of humans. We follow the heard and will eventually end up eating from they're trough of lies. Some of us even learn to like it, what a shame. ( A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE & YOUR SOUL WAS NOT INTENDED TO DO THE ELITES BIDDING) I guess we all do have free will, and can chose to do what we wish.
All I can say is we that pay attention know what is ahead and we are ready. Elite (FOLLOWERS OF LUCIFER) come try to take our gold and silver and even our Constitution. I will leave with a quote from Rage Against the Machine, referenced to the Elite "I got a bullet with your name on it" & you can pry my guns from my dead lifeless hands. To all the sheep out there that chose to feed from the Elites trough. Let me here you say BBBAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH! (LIKE GOOD SHEEP THAT ARE BEING LED TO THE SLAUGHTER!!!!!!!!) To all the others look them right in the face and say "I'll be your huckleberry" and never back down. If you you call yourself an American and they actually go forward with this, you know what you have to do!
Quote anonymous 2/15/2011 1:07 pm
ReplyDelete"The bible says your gold and silver will rust."
You are off base in this regard. Instead, this is a knock against all fiat currencies! They lose value the moment they come into your hands, and if that is not "rust and cankered" you tell me what you think it is!
Use your brain a little bit when you read James 5:3. Does Gold and Silver rust? NO, they may tarnish but they DO NOT RUST! This is a direct warning to those who issue fiat currencies and inflate them to nothing, and those who would depend on them..
The rest of what you have written, spot on.
I must add when Jesus' feet touch that mount of olives at the SEVENTH trump THEN all Gold and Silver will be worthless, because we will have no need for it! But anytime before that, right through the SIXTH trump when the devil comes claiming to be Jesus, precious metal coins along with some food, water, and the WORD of the living God in truth will keep you from falling for the son of perdition and his one world system. see 2 Thessalonians ch 2 and see also Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21
Back in the last confiscation people owned gold coins because it backed the dollar. In order to own gold today you must become aware of its relevance to sound money and therefore its value compared to fiat, so it won't be so easy to pry away at lowball prices.
ReplyDeletePutting a near 100% tax on it would make it worthless as a backing and so the tax would have to be lifted eventually in order for gold to perform as a backing, so you might as well hang onto your insurance.
ReplyDeleteDisguise your gold and silver baubels by hanging
ReplyDeletethem on the Xmas tree you haven't disposed of yet.
Use some gold and have your mercury fillings replaced.
Send the rest to me, I'll take care of it for you. Barring that, make up a solution of Aqua Regia and dissolve the gold. You can always reconstitute it when things have calmed down.
All told, life is getting shittier, keep a cool head.
TAKE MY GOLD I TAKE YOUR LIFE
ReplyDeleteIdiots, stop living in fear, people are to aware now with the internet, riots will happen if the steal your gold and silver. Its 2010 not 1930-1970 anymore.Things have changed.
ReplyDeleteConfiscation of the peoples gold has occurred in America in the past. In 1933 President Franklin D. Roosevelt decreed a "Banking Holiday" via corporate Executive Order 6073, 6102, 6111 & Executive Order 6260 "Trading With The Enemy Act."
ReplyDeleteThere are not enough gold owners to cause a "riot"; in fact, those who do not have gold won't care at all. The elite probably have their gold out of the country, and most people probably own paper gold anyway.
ReplyDeletein a sense, its all a part of Prophecy. we all still have The Freedom of Choice and Free Will. either you have accepted God into your life or you have not. I just hope that everyone is aware of the coming events. Either way its all coming down. The days of our Judgement will SOON be upon us all.
ReplyDeleteMitt Gott Gehen! (Go With God!)
Disinformation post IMO...
ReplyDeleteMy understanding of the '33 confiscation is that gold was voluntarily surrendered and reimbursed at $20/oz. Yes, Gold was revalued at $35 an oz later which did screw those who sold at $20. However, there wasn't forced confiscation.
Forced confiscation will never work in the age of the internet. Information travels pretty darn fast these days...
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ReplyDeleteCIVIL WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteanyone who has bought pure gold they know who you are and either you cough up the gold or you go to jail.
ReplyDeleteSince the metals are no longer considered real money (which they are) confiscating them would be no more effective than confiscating cotton or wheat. There is simply not enough metal in private hands to put a dent in the national debt. It would be a better idea to reprice the metals in the new currency and allow the holders to pay capital gains taxes on their sale.
ReplyDeleteWikipedia says :
ReplyDelete"Executive Order 6102 is an Executive Order signed on April 5, 1933, by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt "forbidding the Hoarding of Gold Coin, Gold Bullion, and Gold Certificates" by U.S. citizens".
This was confiscation, Bro.
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me !!!
The American Hebrew September 10, 1920:
ReplyDelete"The Bolshevist revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction, and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world.
We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America."
(The Jew, December 1925, Zinobit)
The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people."
- Le Peuple Juif, February 8, 1919
The governments of the peoples included in this world republic, with the aid of the victorious proletariat, all will fall without difficulty into Jewish hands. Private property will then be strangled by the Jewish directors, who will administer the state patrimony everywhere. Thus the promise of the Talmud will be fulfilled, that is, the promise that the Jews, at the arrival of the Messiah, will possess the key to the wealth of all the peoples of the earth."
- Baruch Levy, in a letter to Karl Marx, published in the Rothschild controlled La Revue de Paris, June 1, 1928.