UPDATE ON 6/11/11 AT BOTTOM OF POST - Due to the recent admission by Clif, he made things up in the alta reports, I am putting this post up at the top once more. (I originally posted this article on the blog in November of 2010)
What I think and Why about Clif High and the Webbot Technology and How I came to the Conclusion through days and weeks of Research. This is from someone who was a Huge Follower of Clif High and the webbot, not from someone who had been a critic.
Why have I waited until now, though July is when I feel, I figured out that the webbot predictions were a nefarious project? I did not have a “smoking gun” to come out with what I felt, but with the facts of Clif posting on GLP some very vile and violent postings, to me that is now the “smoking gun” needed. Also, since I had put so much energy into believing in Clif and the webbot, I do not write this with glee at all, it is written in sadness, but I still feel this information needs to get out, so people can make up their own minds, regarding it all.
I will say, some really great things have come of all of this, in my own growing and understanding of the negative to the positive. There are others who have been on this journey with me, who I connected with much more after the discovery of what I feel the alta reports are actually about. A few of us share the most wonderful information in positive understanding of Who We Are!
I would also like to clarify right now. I am thankful to have taken all the steps I have in this process. Due to my believing of the webbot reports and then finding out, in my opinion what I believe they are actually being used for…. It made me grow leaps and bounds in a very short amount of time. Those leaps and bounds were to the positive of Who We are and I discovered some amazing things about myself and the world. So I am actually grateful for being engrossed in the negative, to be able to see the Light so Brightly and Positively and Live in the Light of Positive Intentions for myself and all others!
So here is how it all began, that I questioned Clif High and the Webbot Reports.
***** NOTE**** Everything in this post/article, is search-able on the Internet about Clif High, I am not posting any personal information about him, other than that which PUBLIC on various websites Linked***exception is his email to me personally, which he had said previously in another email, I could make any email of his to me, public as I desired*****
I used to be a Webbot follower and believed in Clif High and his sincerity of his work. In July of this year, Clif released pictures on his website of his umiak boat, he built.
http://www.halfpasthuman.com/umiakpictures.html besides these pictures, he also released pictures of himself, which are no longer on his site.
The pictures disturbed me for some reason, it seemed to me, there was a lot more in the pictures than them just being pictures. They were all contrived. They were meant to look like one picture being taken after another, but the sails were different and the wood was different in each one. That feeling and thought stayed with me. I emailed Clif (which I had done many times before and he would email me back. in one of the emails to me, he told me to make public the emails as I wished. So I will be making public this email (which has not been made public previously) of which I feel is a confession from him, in what the reports are about). I emailed him, that something did not seem right about the pictures and him releasing them as he did.
When he emailed me back, I was shocked by what I felt was a confession of what the webbot reports are actually about. First, trying to get the predictions manifested by those who are awake and aware and their energy being focused on the reports and that there may be messages in the reports.
his email to me – July 18th 2010
Sherrie
any agents of TPTB have always known where to locate me, it was /is the random mentally ill
fellows wrapped up in religion and such that has always been the issue. BUT time is too short
now, and universe moves us as it requires, not as we want. So reluctantly, i have to agree
with what direction universe shoves me. It is saying time is short, and certain 'talents' i have
been provided are to be used at this upcoming juncture. In order for certain circumstances to
manifest 'cleanly', there has to be precursors manifestations placed out-and-about as
necessary building blocks. Soo.. even though i am a very private person, with a pretty much
internally focused vision, i am being instucted by universe that the harmonics i may bring to
manifesting circumstances are to be required and to get off'n my butt and get to the real
work. Thus i must now reluctantly take a path i would have preferred to leave to another
incarnation. Make sense? Sort of?
It must be so.
WIthin the upcoming juncture of manifesting events, universe will be using me to provide
words to people who will in their turn take what they need from those words. This is also to be
true of personal contact vibrations. Thus i will be in contact with these people as it decides.
But, since i am a participant in these events, i decided...hmmm. let me at least get a boat ride
out of the deal...and some pie if possible. Thus the 'auction' offer.
The noodle looks to be an auction of an interesting type. We will accept the highest bidder's
money, and send it to people in the gulf (no official charities, so no write off....that will
eliminate some individuals of less than focused intent), but also part of the auction will be
'won' by someone who will put out only words, in the form of a concise personal essay. Thus
more a contest, and eliminates money as the conduit. And they will have to agree to be vdo'd
and recorded.
Also, it is my boat. IF'n agents of nefarious intent were to be involved, there is NO place more
secure for me under those circumstances than Q'oqi-oqi. Plus, we are all dead anyway,
merely a matter of how long we must walk to discover how universe will arrange our end. So
no worries there.
Again, make some sense? Must be somewhat cryptic.
clif
Besides the email, I began looking deeper at the pictures. The picture that is the fourth up from the bottom at the link above, bothered me tremendously, I felt for sure it was actually a message. The bottom part to me shows a Masonic Compass, but I felt there was more. The word “Illusion” came to me, so I did a search on what a symbol for “Illusion” would be. I did not specify a language etc. just any symbol for “illusion”.
What came up for the symbol of “Illusion” matched, in my opinion the 4th picture up from the bottom, perfectly. The symbol was from Kanji. I remembered Clif in an interview saying he was into Kanji. The symbol:
Going from there, but not being a Kanji person, I believe I found another picture which is the 10th down on the page, that matches the words “Deceive the people” . Here is the symbol:
Since I am not a Kanji expert and it is all new to me. If someone who is more familiar with it, can take a look at the pictures (while they are still up) and see what Kanji symbols you can find in them. I also believe the sail is used for the triangle, except it is upside down, so look at the pictures and reverse the sail. You will find it matches very well, in many respects, including the wood pieces outside the boat being moved around for the pictures.
This was shocking to me and for weeks I felt confusion regarding it all. Because I had believed in Clif and I was finding out, in my opinion he was not who he claimed he was.
I have wondered if Clif had set the boat up as different Kanji symbols and to let everyone know, he was deceiving and thus, if we did not catch what he was telling us, that was our problem, but he had no Karma from it? So is every picture telling us something and if we miss it, the Karma is not on him. The very first picture I have not been able to completely grasp the meaning, but I do know, vines do not grow straight up as shown in the picture of the shadows on the sails.
In his August interview Clif said the awake and aware create more energy than those who are asleep, though the awake and aware are smaller in numbers. I listened to the interview and knew instinctively that is what was occurring with the reports. I felt instinctively that the reports were about those who are awake and aware were being used to FOCUS on negative events, so they would happen. Why would someone do this? Clif in interviews talks about his meditations and how “enlightened” he is from his meditations, yet his postings on GLP show him as a very angry, hateful person towards various people and groups.
That is interesting to say the least, considering the webbot reports and his email to me about the manifesting of the events from them.
Here is where Clif High outed himself on GLP and by doing so he revealed one of his ID numbers
clif high
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i never capitalize my name. i am not so important to myself that i give a shit about ego crap. the use of my name this way causes some energy shifts in what feels a malicious manner. at least mean spirited. if i am so lame, i invite you to do better.., oh and what is your favorite appellation? fucktard? isn't it...
worth wondering why you have not the balls to go at me straight on instead of through really lame parody. i can do better in my sleep. if you want to fight, call me up and we can arrange such.
He then admitted he posted on GLP on his site
http://www.halfpasthuman.com/ukemiarts.html
From there someone from GLP did a search and found many postings of Clif's on GLP that topic is linked and titled: "Meet baldrishi, You know him as Clif High"
For those who question if Clif is the one who actually posted on GLP – this post shows he is the one who posted the various vile comments – as he posted this (2nd comment down from GLP), before he came out with his “Pissin off the Pindar” Writing.
http://www.halfpasthuman.com/pissin.html
But I have to wonder what happened – because just a little over a month before, Clif was touting Deagle on GLP here is his post from Dec. 2009 compared to the post below it from Jan. 2010.
HERE ARE JUST A FEW OF HIS POSTS ON GLP - LINKS TO ALL TOPICS AND PAGES INCLUDED, There are many many more posts from him there, which you can find yourself, if you so desire.
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deagle is a true fellow according to bill ryan, just like dan burish is a true fellow according to bill ryan, just like all the serpoo is true.
****** I looked up Serpoo – I had never heard of that – it seems that is from the game “Resident Evil 4”. It looks like a doom and gloom and a violent type of game*****
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deagle is a former doctor who lost his license in colorado for killing some woman with too many meds 109 of them. Then he claims to have been the doctor at collumbine, murrow building, 911 and about a dozen other places. And he claims to be a doctor on classified secret programs. But he is living in canada and cant get his medical license back. So works as a radio vitamin salesman and gets his audience through fear and fake doom. Unlike Quayle there is not a sign that the USgovmint is paying him. It looks like all his classified and secret ops claims are just the same bullshit as his claims to have been THE doctor at all these tragedies. A strange doomfiker no doubt, but trusted? by whom? for what level of his bullshit is trustworthy? This fucker claims to have turned down becoming YOUR master. That is right, deagle claims to have been offered the PINDAR of the Dragon status by the Priory of Scion...which would make him the Dragons' Dick that rules the world. But he says he is too nice and could not be your slave master.
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how many times was the pope attacked?
no nearly enough!
save the humans! take a big crap on the vatican!
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more zionist propaganda to make it seem like israelis are not the bad guys in spite of them about to kill a few million innocent iranians by their nuke attack. Fuck the zionist british press stooges and the israelis with their hands up the butts of the establishment (NWO).
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no, you are wrong. Passover is a celebration of the Death of the First Born Children. This 'holiday' is in "celebration" of the reputed half million first born non-jew children that were supposedly slaughtered by the jews' god in egypt. Like most of the old testament derived jewish history, this story of passover is a myth. But at its core, the jewish myth of passover celebrates the death of children. What a very fitting holiday for the israeli's, the butchers of the children in palestine.
Myth because =(no jews were ever builders of pyramids, the jewish people en masse were never held captive by the pharohs, and moses did not lead any single person any place...all BS and myth).
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to paraphrase percy bysshe shelley,
when the last pope has been strangled with the guts of the last politcian, and both bodies consumed by fires fed by the rendered fat of the last banker, then humans will be free.
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so let me see if i get this, we have a dead, minor middle eastern god myth in charge of the stock market? And this dead, minor delusion of a few warped minds gets pissed when we try and rein in the zionist monsters who are intent on fucking all christers into slavery by trickery?
Why do I find the above posts so shocking? Because Clif has said in interview after interview - he does NOT condone violence and he does NOT feel anyone should be violent! So his posts are contrary to his words in interviews. Also I specifically remember an interview he did last year, where he said he does NOT surf the internet, nor does he go to forums as "that would mess up, him reading and interpreting the data for the alta reports".
I find the posts above very significant in that he has out right said things contrary to what he has done.
There are other topics he started, that were about promoting the webbot reports and his swirlie program, which seems real scary to me, due to comments by others saying it made them “feel weird” after watching them. Clif claimed it would help people physically, by watching them.
You can check out those topics here:
a comment from a crop circle topic, someone else started:
This person was warning others, not to watch the crop circles from Clif – Clif posted in the topic
Besides this latest information about him posting on GLP….. I had done days and days of research in July, due to wanting to find out if Clif was real or not after his email to me. I found all kinds of things, many personal, from his having problems with his umiak boat, to looking to buy a boat, which does not apply here.
But various tidbits of things I do believe apply:
The boat he has pictures up on his website of.
searched: Q'oqi-oqi meaning
What it says, is basically - "a CONTROL system that brings about results"
I also found information regarding his Vortex software. It is suppose to help people read faster.
Here is where someone has doubted his Vortex software – it makes interesting reading if nothing else, due to the odd accusation against Clif and his Vortex software.
http://www.aliensonearth.com/area51/list/1997/mar/a07-003.shtml
From his Rense Interview in September:
at little after 9 min mark - says suffering from arthritis - on GLP says his swirlies cure arthritis from a topic he started linked above.
at little after 13 min mark Rense said, he printed out report #7 - but it was like it was in code - all jibberish and asked Clif if the CIA had put codes in the report!! Listen to this part, very interesting non reaction from Clif.
around the 9:40min on this one is the discussion of the awake and aware energy and the power we have as being much more than those asleep, directly from Clif.
listen starting at 2 min mark - Nov. tip point - global nuclear war - Israel attacks Iran - says no society anymore around the world, most of our military killed within the four days of Nov. - what he says is where the people of the world are basically wiped out. AT 4:22MIN **** Important - he says " HE IS SURE HE IS WRONG BECAUSE ANYTHING HE CAN IMAGINE WILL PROBABLY NOT HAPPEN" Listen to those Words "Anything he can IMAGINE"! at the 8:52 min mark - he says "George and him work on the reports together and because THEY CAN THINK OF, it probably will not manifest that way".
says life will be different after Nov. 8th for all - due to tipping point - *** Life is the same for me right now - has it changed for anyone else***?
at 10 min mark - says presented the idea of the webbot technology to CIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACkW-qqZZk&feature=related
here is information from Clif regarding his software. He does not have the Vortex information page up on his website anymore, nor does George on Urban Survival – but this is from another site about it:
http://www.halfpasthuman.com/
Vortex xStream ™
Machine Assisted Reading has come to a computer near you.
This software allows humans to read from their computer screens at up to 2000 words per minute.
This is accomplished by allowing the separation of the work involved in reading.
You set the legibility factors (Font, Size, Color, and Speed of Delivery), sit back, and then the computer does the display, you do the absorption.
* Word display at up to 2000 words per minute
* Word display in sizes to the limit of the display
* Word display in any color combination available on your display.
* Word display in any typeface font available on your computer.
* Extract words from all your other software for reading in Vortex xStream with 'soft eyes'.
Vortex xStream can be used for:
Reading text from browsers.
Reading text from email programs.
Reading text from word processing programs.
As a form of tele-prompter.
As a form of text interpreter for the hearing/vision impaired.
As a form of teaching aid for either groups or individually.
As a form of reading enhancement tool for those with *some reading impairments.
The Vortex xStream software presents one word at a time in the manner best suited to your reading. Your eyes will do less work, and more words will get to the mind.
Vortex xStream is a version of our patented (US Pat. 5,873,109) Machine Assisted Reading Software technology. This version is entirely focused on delivery of speed.
If you need to read vast quantities of text from computers, this software may be for you.
If you have visual impairments, this software *may be for you. Bear in mind that if you cannot operate software within Windows, you will not be able to operate this software without assistance.
(This product runs on Microsoft Windows XP, 2000, NT, ME and 98)
Vortex xStream has been used in : Government ... Teaching ... Spies (CIA) ... Business ...Schools ... Medicine ... legal reading ... script reading ... debugging computer code
To purchase Vortex xStream via Paypal for $30 US Dollars, go to :
http://payloadz.com/go/sip?id=78724
You will be emailed a secure site for download of the software with an access number which is good for 48 hours.
To purchase Vortex xStream via check or money order,
*with delivery via email attachment*, send check/money order payable to: Tenax SE
in the amount of $30 US Dollars along with the email address where you wish delivery to:
VxStream
4305 Biscay St NW
Olympia WA 98502 USA
Also Clif’s motto with the Vortex Software is on the above link – but here it is:
Cliff High
Tenax Software Engineering
chigh@halcyon.com
"To change the world,
change a mind"
What I could not find is a patent for Clif's Vortex XStream reader. I found a patent application that referred to the Vortex and Tenax Software Engineering (Clif) but that did not refer to a patent for Clif.
The patent that refers to Clif's Vortex:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6098085.htmlI have found where Clif says he did the Cornix Software, but the patent for the Cornix for Microsoft does not have his name on it, as an inventor.
Here Clif is Saying he is working on the Cornix
http://www3.wcl.american.edu/cni/9703/12211.html
From above link - more at link but this one sentence is important.
"Tenax Software Engineering is working on Cornix,"
Here is the Patent for Cornix for Microsoft
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=aZUVAAAAEBAJ&dq=cornix
Listed there are these names as the "inventors" (Cliff's name is not listed as an inventor) and the relevant information about the patent:
Inventors: Daryl Lawton, Alexandra W. Loeb, Henry W. Burgess, Eric J. Feigin
Assignee: Microsoft Corporation
Primary Examiner: Joseph Feild
Secondary Examiner: Rachna Singh
Attorneys: Leydig, Voit & Mayer, Ltd.
Patent number: 6920610
Filing date: Mar 2, 1999
Issue date: Jul 19, 2005
Application number: 9/260,837
Here is a reference to Clif and Tenax for the Cornix software in an advertisement type article:
http://www.sportsci.org/news/movetoge/mt13.html
TECHNOLOGY / COMMUNICATION
FROM Edupage: 4 February 1997
THE EYES HAVE HAD IT
Tenax Software Engineering has come up with a new tool for managing
information overload -- its Cornix Java applet allows you to read Web pages
with "ease and comfort at speeds of up to 1,000 words per minute." The
Cornix applet displays the text of a Web page one word at a time in
100-point type (almost 1-1/2 inches high), eliminating the side-to-side eye
scanning that can cause eye fatigue. Tenax reports that most people double
their reading speed almost as soon as they start using Cornix, with average
person, reading about 240 words per minute, increasing to nearly 500 wpm.
Tenax claims some enthusiastic readers have even reached "warp" speeds of
8,000 or so wpm. (Information Week 27 Jan 97)
This is also very interesting to me. I found a board Clif posted on, saying he was chair of a Y2K board and how various organizations were about to fail, due to the Y2K problem used the type of writing in how he . What is very interesting is him using the type writing as he does the alta report.
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002BtIHere are his messages he posted, at the above link:
Threshold events reported by C R High of Tenax Software Engineering from the collective conclusions of the TACE working group of the CCS [Center for Co-operative Solutions] as of Jan 2, 2000
A threshold event is required before spin on y2k changes from 'no problem'. Yes, the press are the lackeys of 'the powers that be' [TPTB] but, like a pack of mistreated dogs, when the discipline breaks, the whole pack will attack.
Threshold event is likely to fall into one of the following categories: death/serious injury failure at corporate level failure of a commonly experienced norm (loss of telecom satellite, atms)
Threshold event also masks the '10,000 cuts' that we will all have to live through. During this time, the biggest challenge will be to convince others that the data given to them by the computer is suspect.Currently, people believe computer generated data. It will take either a reported threshold event or the continuous reporting of small errors in such quantity as to depress the collective mood of denial and euphoria. This will require daily reporting of thousands of incidents or the direct experience [by large number of individual members of the public] of previously identified clarion call incidents [e.g. personal banking, credit card, energy purchase (gas, heating oil) or medical device failure].
The trend analysis charting from the CCS [Center for Co-operative Solutions] working group on threshold analysis and Y2K predicts that [within the USA] the first of the threshold events will be reported [sic, accurately and with meaning] after the 5th of January and before the 25th of Jan. Noting the resistance of the media, the actual estimates are reported below: Threashold event reporting 99% likely between Jan 2 and Jan 25 60% likely between Jan 3 and Jan 5 80% likely between Jan 5 and Jan 25
The actual predictions from the working group rank the likeliest threshold incidents to take place in [one of] the following areas ranked in order of probablility; *transportation *financing *energy (production) *energy (consumption) *manufacturing (most likely chemical production) *telecoms (including entertainment) Note that the ratings difference between transportation and finance were negligible. Author chose to list in this order out of personal perferences.
Note that events from outside of the USA direct reporting sphere are postulated to require that the incident include deaths in order to reach threshold status with US reporting industry.
Note that threshold events are defined to *not* include internet only reporting of an incident.
FYI: the beginning of a thousand mile journey is not complete with the first step. In spite of what your feet might like you to believe.
--
cliff high (chigh@vallier.com), January 02, 2000
The other post on the above link - him responding to someone else
Tenax SE does software engineering at several levels. We have patents on software which allows users to read at up to 2000 words per minute from ordinary computer screens. We have several new products in the process of being patented. We do y2k work at the database (client/server) level. We do programming in C, C++, PB, VB, perl, prolog, assembler, verilog, et cetera...we do plc development, as well as other forms of burnable code. We provide counseling on technical issues and social/business impacts to a wide variety of clients. (as an aside, some of our clients are building 'hit' lists of their competitors who are likely to experience enterprise level failurs, we are advising on this effort)
Currently Tenax chairs the CCS working group on trends analysis and y2k. Like the gartner group, we see the y2k problems developing over the course of the next two years. DB corruption will be the big news. Enterprise level failures (think IRS, Fortune 100s) will begin surfacing next week. These are predicted to come to light over the next 6 to 8 months. Our prediction for the peak of enterprise failures goes from Sept 2000 to Feb 2001.
Remeber, y2k is NOT a date problem, it is a data problem. Therefore failure(s) will occur when the data falls outside the acceptable range allowed by the exercising program (and the programmers' vision). Thus, failure(s) due to y2k are only partially predictable by date.
--
cliff high (chigh@vallier.com), January 02, 2000.
Well he was wrong about that prediction, in 2000 and everything did not fall apart after all.
*** Also above he says he has various software patents, I was only able to find a couple of patents with Clif's name on it and none were for software.
An electronically controlled token engraving apparatus.
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=DncwAAAAEBAJ&dq=cliff+high
A Device for dispensing for portions of chain
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=sM8uAAAAEBAJ&dq=cliff+high
I searched for Tenax Software Engineering patents - I was able to find references to his Vortex, in other people's applications for speed reading software, but I was not able to find an actual patent for the Vortex or anything in Tenax's names, nor do the references give a patent number with the reference.
In all my hours of searching using various ways of his name from Cliff R High, Clifford R High, Cliff High, Clif High, Tenax, Tenax Software engineering, Tenax Software, Vortex, Vortex Xstream, Xstream, ebrain, ebrain speed, vxstream. for patents - I could not find any for the above, except for the 2 listed. Maybe I somehow missed patents for him, but I tried very hard to find any that I could.
One last thing about Tenax,. which I found very interesting
Tenax Software Engineering2103 Harrison Ave NW
Suite 2-141
Olympia, WA 98502
Phone: 360-866-1686
Fax: 360-866-1686
Email:
vuilbaard@earthlink.net
Record created: Aug 23, 2001 :: Updated: Aug 30, 2001
Tenax Software provides technical repensentation to state and local government agencies within Washington and Oregon. We act as manufacturers reps for software (or specific hardware)
to government agencies. We provide technically astute sales and installation/support for software products applicable to government operations.
Our work involves 24/7 support for products in use in Washington and Oregon state and local governments.
We are located in Olympia which allows for short term response to our clients needs.
We are comfortable in representing a diverse software product line. This ranges from handheld computer software to agency wide enterprise imaging systems.
I would like to say, in August I confronted Clif in an email with all the information I had dug up at that time. I included the Kanji symbols and flat out told him, I thought the reports were about the awake and aware focusing their intent and energy into the events he forecasted, so they would occur. Also he was keeping the awake and aware’s energy in the negative with Fear and Worry, which feeds the PTB. He replied back and (*Updated info*11/25/10)denied my accusations and that was the last time I emailed him, except for a follow up to his denial. I have never emailed him again. What is also funny is I was banned off the webbot forum not long after, though I had never posted any of my thoughts about Clif there, but there are a couple of "high profile members/mods there, who did know what I found out".
********(***Updated Info***11/25/10) - I re read Clif's "denial email to me last night. I had only read it once, after I received it - I realized Clif did not deny the Biggest accusation I made against him! Clif did not deny the fact he keeps people's Energy in Fear on Purpose! He denied the messages in the boat pictures, but not the "fear factor".
How I missed the biggest fact of his non-denial, I don't know! Except maybe I still wasn't ready to see the "whole truth" to myself yet.
But if I do release that email, then people will see he did not deny - he purposely keeps people in Fear! It would just be another "nail", when there is no need to have one more placed, IMO.
But others, who are saying I am unethical for not releasing it... need to stop, as it does Clif no good, because it is not a denial, as I fully comprehended last night.****** END OF UPDATE ON 11/25/10.
Clif will mention in interviews how “Enlightened” and how he meditates all the time and has been able to transcend many things of the physical including ego. But what I have read from his posts on GLP, I don’t personally see how that is possible. Also, something else that bothered me in the pictures of his boat, was all the trash everywhere. I mentioned that in my email to him. He said it was due to various recent circumstances of storms etc and he had not cleaned up yet. But when you look at the pictures of his boat, you can see trash just thrown on the ground by it and so on. So I decided to look up the address he has on his website on Google Earth. What I saw was so Shocking to me, I could not believe it. The picture I captured from Google Earth was taken in 2006. I am not meaning to get very personal here, because I do not like to invade anyone’s space. I would have Never even considered looking up his address before and only did due to my concern of what I saw in his boat pictures. I am not going to insert the picture, due to my feeling it is such an invasion of privacy, but anyone who wants to can look it up themselves from his address on halfpasthuman. What I will say regarding it, is I do not believe anyone can be enlightened and at peace with the Earth and Love the Earth as Clif says and live in an absolute garbage dump. **To me, it looks like trash in the picture, others may have a different way of looking at it and not consider it trash*** I have literally never seen property that looked to have trash on it, like it does. You can also see it on google maps. Since the address is up on his site, I am not at all revealing anything of a personal nature, except for what to me is shocking and I could never personally be a peace within myself while trashing the Earth around me. I am putting this in there, due to my feeling it is relevant, due to Clif's statements about himself.
There is much more I have found, including where Clif posts on boating forums, besides all kinds of other information, which I am not going to put here, as again the personal stuff does not apply. What does apply, in my opinion is Clif not being all he says he is. Also believing we have been used to try to help manifest through our energies the dire predictions he made in the webbot reports. What is interesting is the fact he has “moon” as his email address on his site. Someone had said in the GLP topic revealing Clif has posted there many times, that the reports were released close to the new moon every month. So I decided to look up what the meaning of the new moon is, in regards to spirituality and manifestations. This is what I found:
The new moon is the birthing cycle of the moon's various phases. The new moon phase is an optimal time for planning and seeding your intentions. Seedlings need a period of gestation before they break through the soil and reach for the sunlight. This is also true for our ideas and our desires. The dark side of the moon, with its mysterious unseen forces, offers a nurturing environment where our intentions can establish roots before their miraculous manifestations begin to sprout and reach out to the stars.
Setting aside a few minutes each month during the new moon phase to focus on yours wishes and desires will help give you clarity of mind and fill your heart with promise. When it comes to setting goals or planning ahead for your future there is no better time to get started than during the new moon. Any intentions stated or written down carries power, so please take care in considering the things that you really want. The saying "Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it." is fair warning whenever setting your new moon intentions into motion. But, no worries. The moon has its phases and so do our individual wants and needs. This is why it is a good practice to rededicate your list of intentions each month when another new moon visits.
So there it shows it is a “seeding of intentions”.
Reverse speech done – from one of Clif and George Ure’s interview together:
Now my questions are:
Did Clif not realize when he wrote that Yes it was him that actually posted on GLP – that someone would then not look up his ID numbers to his postings to see what he has posted before?
Did Clif do it on purpose, because he is over it all and does not want to do the reports anymore? In follow up to that….. has he been doing the reports by working for TPTB and this was his way out – by “outting” himself?
Has Clif done these reports due to his own anger and hatred of Israel, The Churches, Banks, etc and wanted them manifested himself? I ask that due to his violent and hateful postings about those subjects on GLP.
For understanding too and information about those who may try and lead the awake and aware down the wrong path to keep their energy in Fear, Anger and Worry. I advise looking at this link about those who deceive you, by giving you some hits to get a following, which Clif did get small hits.
- Accurate prophecies are no guarantee of positive intent. Deceptive sources may make successful predictions solely to win blind devotion, induce feelings of doom, or create self-fulfilling prophecies. When positive sources give prophecies, they respect freewill and present probabilities without macabre coloring or undue fatalism.
- That a body of material contains identifiable truths does not necessarily make it valid. Deceptive sources may pile a heap of lies upon an otherwise factual basis, while the sloppier cases simply slap together fragments of existing material. In contrast, positive material is always more than the sum of its parts and presents extra information that is novel, practical, and verifiable.
- Preoccupation with lower truths can distract from the pursuit of higher truths. For instance, obsession with exposing political corruption can distract from gaining necessary spiritual empowerment, which is a popular tactic employed by hyperdimensional entities and their human agents. Positive sources prioritize by framing lower truths in their higher context.
- Just because something contains convoluted trivia, complex jargon, and voluminous pages, it does not necessarily contain profound truths. The illusion of profundity sends people on a wild goose chase for grand truths better found elsewhere. Positive sources are complex only for the sake of accuracy and conciseness.
That is just a very small part of the information available at the above link.
But it also should make people question, what and who they believe in totally.
Which makes me feel there is a program for “predicting things” due to the small hits he has gotten, which then enabled him to get a “cult following”. Which then makes me feel the reports have been a PTB project, thus is “Igor” the PTB controller of the reports, who Clif mentions often, especially in the GLP posts he has done.
I have a few other comments about this and I surmise it all:
By many of the awake and aware ( I am including myself too) having believed the webbot reports and some really bad event was always going to happen on some date, we “warned others”. When the event did not happen, the people we warned, felt we were nuts. Thus those people have never listened again to our “message” in any way. Including the real messages we have to offer, from knowledge we may glean from what is going on around the world. Thus the Message and Light of the Messenger has been extinguished for many of us. I also gather from those who Really warned others about the “tipping point” that was suppose to happen on Nov 14th. Have really had to deal with being made to look silly and their light has been dimmed in a big way. I can tell you, I did not believe at all there would be a tipping point, I felt it was simply another ploy to take away the message of the awake and aware.
Why are there many people who have told me, due to believing in the webbot predictions their lives have been wrecked. There are a few whose spouses have left them due to those believing the “big bad event was going to happen” and there is always another date to “watch out for” and some have lost friends over it.
How could something that was suppose to be and claimed it was for the betterment of mankind, be so destructive in many people’s lives?
There is much more I could say about this….. but it is always sad, to think….. many of us were actually trying through the webbot reports and following Clif High, to help mankind. We did it in the best of intentions and due to our belief in a “Guru”. We were actually sheep, being led into a pen, where I believe our energies were being used to try and help manifest the most dire predictions possible.
**note: I put this information article together 5 days ago and have still doubted whether to release it publicly or not, I take no enjoyment in releasing everything.
I have spent many hours and days researching Clif to make an absolute determination in my mind of his sincerity of work. I had always questioned why Clif never gave a positive as a counter balance of the negative information. When I say Positive - I mean in talking about how WE can Change the outcomes of what his material stated through our own determination and energies. The future is not set, due to people changing their thoughts and energies, why was it always: "This is what WILL be what happens" from Clif?
We can get our Light Back and Be Who we are really meant to be – through Positive Vibrations!
I now advise those who have concentrated on the negative to read and look at some of the most positive information of Who We Are – In that we are all one – we CAN Save Each other and our Precious Earth through Love for each other and our Earth!
http://www.bbsradio.com/files_byothers/ELF_Transmissions_061707.pdf
Also see this video of "The Little Grandmother " She is amazing and she says "Yes, some things are going to happen with the Earth, BUT through Love we can get through it all - NO FEAR" Work through your Heart in Love and Light not through your mind in Fear and Darkness".
This is all just my opinion, it may not feel right to others and it is subjective in what I feel I have found out or have read from his email. I have written this in sorrow and I still have moments of doubt, as it really is sad to me. But, I sincerely do this in Love - I do in in Love due to even if the webbot reports were not intentionally meant to cause the manifestations of such negative predictions they still are not what anyone should focus on. Again I am still thankful for going through the whole journey I have, due to it making me a stronger person in Knowing LOVE is the Only way forward with Positive Intent in All Things!
Also a note.... I am NOT trying to convince anyone of anything, I am laying out WHY I have come to the conclusions myself of what I feel the webbot predictions are about. Many have other opinions and that is fine.... it is simply where I am and What I feel myself is Truth to me.
I FEEL the time has come for us to understand what we focused on and Now what we MUST Focus On!
FOCUS ON LOVE, LIGHT, HAPPINESS, JOY, CONTENTMENT, LAUGHTER, PROSPERITY FOR ALL, HEALING! The list goes on and on of Where our Focus Should Be in the Positive! Live in the Positive - Love in the Positive - and Focus on the Positive!
Edit - This is interesting information:
There is a book from 1971 titled: Half Past Human
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_Past_Human
It is so ironic in so many ways and it can bring up other questions about the whole hoopla happening, but I would think,
everyone would have to admit, it really is quite funny in so many ways of the information is right in front of you, if you so desire to look at it. Hidden in plain sight as some may say.
Here's some interesting stuff about the book Half Past Human.
Plot summary
Bass' future Earth is an environment in which the sum of the biota serves as its food chain. Human science has created the four-toed Nebish, a pallid, short-lived and highly programmable humanoid who has had the elements that do not facilitate an underground Hive existence (aggression, curiosity, etc.) bred out of it. The five-toed humans (called buckeyes) wander the biofarms that keep the trillions of Earth's Nebish population fed. All animals other than man are extinct, so meat comes from other humans (and the occasional rat). The conflict between the Hives and the roving bands of five-toed original Humans, who are reduced to savagery and hunted like vermin by Hive Security, forms the backdrop of this novel.
Something strange is happening, as the primitive buckeyes are showing signs of a purpose whose goal is unclear and probably dangerous to the balance of the Hive. There seems to be a third party stirring the pot, campaigning in a relentlessly successful battle with the computer minds that keep this "brave new world" in balance. Agendas beyond the ken of their protagonists begin to come into play, and an epic battle between the Four- and the Five-toed is looming.
another little summary
Members of the Hive are gender-neutral until assigned one by the Earth Society for reasons that serve that Hive; reasons usually centering on population control. Good idea given there are three billion members of the Hive. Tinker, an exemplary model of a Hive citizen, is assigned the status of Male, mates and has an "unauthorized" offspring - a five toed baby who is destined for the recycle bin. Paternal instincts kick in (thanks to his assignment as a male) and he tries to escape the Hive. Eventually he meets up with old-timer Moon and an artificially intelligent staff (as in meter-long stick) named Toothpick, who are organizing the savage five-toes against the Hive.
http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2005/02/review-half-past-human-by-tj-bass/
Here's another one that's also interesting about old-timer Moon
http://mtvenar.deviantart.com/art/Moses-Ependorff-with-Toothpick-166148437?q=sort%3Atime+gallery%3Amtvenar&qo=2
Curious stuff!
I just put the info in for the laughs of it all. Who knew there was a book called Half Past Human and a Hive mentality and an Old Timer Named Moon and a control of the population. All quite funny if you think about it!
EDIT 2/7/11
The Webbot Forum has designed a very interesting logo for the forum and their youtube channel. The forum is supposedly owned by Foxx (forum name), but when I had looked up the information, extra money was paid, so an owner would not actually be listed.
After seeing the information was hidden, I started a topic on the forum, last Oct. (2010) with a very simple question of "Who is the owner of the forum"? The reaction was mind blowing in how upset Foxx and the moderators were for me asking that. They shut down the topic in a very fast amount of time. Then the emails I received from Foxx and a few of the moderators were filled with "F***ing" curse words, I was called every thing in them. They of course, as any "power structure" does when asked for truth, turn it around and attack the person asking for truth. They said I was a trouble maker and so on and I was putting them in jeopardy for asking the question.
I have not posted or participated in that forum since. I wondered why they did not want to reveal the information of who the owner is per se. Besides, I had only participated in it, in the MERS foreclosure topic and metals topic at that point, as I did not believe in the webbot technology anymore.
That has since made me wonder many times, who is behind the forum. Is it a government entity (CIA, etc) behind it, thus is it a PTB forum, to keep those who are very much awake and aware continued to have their energies locked in fear through predictions of the webbot, instead of Love and Light?
What is the reason I am putting in this edit? I was sent the link of their youtube channel yesterday (2/6/11) and the second I saw their logo, I was blown away at the amount of Illuminati symbolism in every respect in it. They packed their logo with the symbols of the Elite and PTB, the all seeing eye, dead people, a pyramid, people being beaten down, it is so in your face full of Illuminati symbolism. There is probably even more going on with it, in the eye lid part of the drawing of symbolism, I have not been able to grasp as of yet. But the other, totally jumps out and is very obvious.
I am sure there will continue to be the cult following of Clif and the webbot, as with anything, many don't ever want to see the truth, in something they have invested their time, energy, mental thoughts, and money, etc. in. Giving up a belief is just not easy for people.
Of course, the observation and interpretation, is my own feeling and thoughts of the webbot forum logo and others may see it completely different. I am simply giving my opinion.
UPDATE 6/11/11 -
Clif High did an interview last week, it seems he completely admitted making things up in the reports. He said he put lies in to get back at the PTB, for his on vendettas. He said he purposely manipulated people's energy and focus on lies! For those who fully understand why he did this - he had to shed Karma off himself and now put it on the people. But what is amazing is people that refuse to look at the truth, still believe he did it for the good. I have something to say to that.... if a person is "enlightened" as Clif High self proclaims he is then he would KNOW you NEVER put people's focus on any negatives as that is using their energies for the negative to happen.
Here is the part of his last interview saying he wrote lies in the reports to manipulate people. It starts at the beginning of this video and he talks in circles for about 7 minutes about it. He said he has no regrets. Now.... question for everyone - where does he get his correct information? Also, someone called me and asked me to look at his new pictures up on HPH - he put "Tiki 21" up. It is very weird in the way it is written, more like a "loge" than a story. Also in one second I saw something in the pictures. Take a look and see if you also see what I do - a hint...... VERY VERY CREEPY - in fact a Bizarre Creepy!
Reverse Speech analysis of sections of the above part of the interview.
Besides outright admitting lies in the report, he confirms it with the reverse speech.
