Sunday, February 24, 2013

Back door gun registration including Private Sale background checks, Close to deal in the Senate. Why Mental Health can not be part of gun control (my personal story).

What is essentially a back door universal gun registration is getting close to a deal in the Senate.  It is for background checks even for private sales and includes a record kept of gun sales. 

This is their first step to what we have all been fighting against.   By requiring universal background checks and then a record of all gun sales from one citizen to another, they would be getting what they want in D.C.

They put out the extremes of gun control in the beginning for people to then accept "lesser" controls, no doubt.   The psychology of "we are going to take it all away, to then get you to allow what we really want"... Universal gun registration.

We need to make sure our Senators vote NO on this!

Obama's Executive Order of gun control signed on January 16th, IS gun control and can stop everyone from their 2nd amendment rights.

Obama's 23 Executive Actions On Gun ViolenceThe President is announcing that he and the Administration will: 2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system. ... 14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence. ... 16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes. 17. Release a letter to health-care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law-enforcement authorities.... 20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental-health services that Medicaid plans must cover. 21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges. 22. Commit to finalizing mental-health-parity regulations. 23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health (1/16).

Understand the Mental Health part of Obama's Executive Order of gun control, sounds good on the surface to the general public.  But there is actually a very big problem with it.

By having medical records to be part of gun background checks is another form of taking away our 2nd amendment by not allowing people to buy a gun.   Let me tell you, my story about what I thought was just an innocent comment to a doctor I had been going to for over 10 years.  I trusted the doctor and one time in his office, I made a simple comment, not knowing he was writing it all down and I thought I was telling a 'friend'. I made an innocent statement when he asked me how everything was going in my life.  I said "I am down and depressed about my financial situation at the moment."

A couple of years later I got new health insurance.  After having the insurance for almost 2 years, I got a letter from them.  They were dropping me as if I never had insurance with them at all, so any medical expenses they had paid out, I needed to pay them back  (It ended up where they had to pay me money for that time).  The reason why they were dropping me?  Because that doctor/friend had written down and gave the insurance company the information, I was 'depressed' that one time in his office.  The health insurance company, said "It was a pre-existing depression condition I had not disclosed on my application of insurance."   I was appalled needless to say!  One statement, made to my doctor about that moment in time in my life of having financial difficulties, became a  'permanent mental condition' in the mind of the insurance company.

Do you see what I am getting at?  Doctors would disclose any comment or statement you have ever said to them that was innocent or you thought was in confidentiality.   So, due to that time of being down about financial worries, I became un-insurable as a 'mentally depressed' person.

Now, imagine our 2nd amendment rights being based on 'mental health'!  This is another backdoor gun control for all the people.   They would search records and is there any doubt they could find something on every single person? They then could say "You aren't allowed to have a gun nor rights to the 2nd amendment"   They would especially do this against our returning soldiers.  I have no doubt they would constantly put them as having PTDS and not allowing our troops to have gun rights in the country they have defended.

There is no doubt that everyone has felt down at one time or another regarding a situation in their lives.  Doctors ask about it too.  They want to push 'anti-depressant' drugs on everyone, so they may casually ask "How is everything going in your life?"  If you have ever said "Things are not that great right now and I am a little down about ______ (what ever it may be)."  You may have just stopped being allowed to exercise your 2nd amendment and the doctor could have put down "depression" next to your name.

 People may have also innocently mentioned to a doctor about being angry about something in their lives with a phrase of "I was so angry, I could just kill _____."  Think about how you use the word 'kill' when saying how angry you are about something.  It is a word people use all the time, it is an expression and people don't mean it literally.   But, if you were ever angry about something and mentioned it to your 'doctor/friend' and used the word 'kill' as part of a phrase, then you may possibly never be allowed to own a gun.

Do you see where I am going with this?  Having doctors report your information and records as being part of gun control is complete gun control and anything you may have ever said for that moment in time in your life, will be used against you.

All the bills being created or possibly being compromised on is part of actually getting our 'Rights to Bear Arms' taken away through back door laws.   They all sound, good and reasonable but we already know from history what the government actually does with 'good and reasonable' laws.  They don't stop because they actually have the agenda to get guns out of the American public's hands.

Gun owners are being treated as 'sex offenders' in the media.  Remember what the newspaper in N.Y. did, by releasing an interactive map of where each gun owner lives.   The children of today are being taught 'guns are no good.'  They are trying to create a whole generation that will not have guns in the future.  They are not teaching them that "Guns are our Right and our Forefathers made sure we would have that right always, to defend ourselves against tyranny."

Small portions of 'The Senate agreement'

A bipartisan group of senators is on the verge of a deal that would expand background checks to all private firearms sales with limited exemptions, but significant disagreements remain on the issue of keeping records of private gun sales, according to aides familiar with the talks.
An agreement would be a bold first step toward consideration of legislation to limit gun violence in the wake of the mass shootings at a Connecticut elementary school in December and comes as the Senate Judiciary Committee is expected this week to begin considering new proposals to limit gun violence.
The talks, led by two Democrats and two Republicans, are expected to earn more GOP support in the coming days and likely enough to move the bill through the Senate, according to senior aides of both parties who were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter.
“These negotiations are challenging, as you’d expect on an issue as complicated as guns,” the chief negotiator, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), said in a statement Saturday. “But all of the senators involved are approaching this in good faith. We are all serious about wanting to get something done, and we are going to keep trying.”  

Obama and the D.C. gun grabbers met last week behind closed doors to arrange how they will go forward in getting gun control.

   ANNAPOLIS, Md.—With a big to-do list at the start of his second term, President Barack Obama is trying to sell Democrats on his strategy for tackling immigration, gun control and a host of fiscal dilemmas.Obama met behind closed doors for more than two hours Wednesday with lawmakers from his own party at the Senate Democrats' annual retreat at a hotel in Annapolis, Md. House Democrats will hear from Obama at their annual retreat Thursday in Lansdowne, Va.

Gun Control advocate groups are now planning town hall type meetings around the country.  They are going to start pushing the agenda in a big way to the American public.  We already know the main stream media is behind gun control all the way.  It is from our grass root efforts and the Pro 2nd amendment lobbying groups (NRA, GOA, and other gun rights groups) and our pressuring our own elected officials to stand by our Constitution and Bill of Rights, will we keep our Freedoms.

People simply need to look at the bills deeper to understand that they are essentially complete gun control and would take guns out of the public's hands.

The unconstitutional Executive Order by Obama that links mental health to our Rights to Bear Arms, needs to be wiped out.  That Executive Order is unconstitutional besides violating people's rights to privacy and the rights of our medical records staying out of the hands of the Federal Government, for abuse and mis-use!

My story about Health Insurance is completely true.  A local paper even wrote about it when I had to go to Thailand for my medical needs due to not being able to afford it in the U.S.

EDIT to Add 6 pm:

NRA got a memo that details Obama's agenda for guns.  It involves complete gun confiscation and items listed that Obama has never even mentioned as part of his gun grab.   He wants all guns off the street and gun registration! 


  1. I won't register anything, as registration means asking permission. And if I want to sell a weapon to a family member or a trusted friend, I will do so. These traitors in the government are heading down a dangerous road - for them.

  2. Its a shame you perpetuate the myth about Hitler.

  3. Go dissect Obama's books. What is Obama doing holding a firearm after admitting HE smoked illegal drugs? Drug abuse is a major symptom of depression, and a close examination of Obama's writings will document it.

    1. You will find most leaders and authority figures are complete loonies and hypocrites, and most of them are LIARS! Some are insane or near insanity.

      If you follow them it will lead to your death!

  4. Why isn't a total LACK of depression considered mental illness? If someone has never had the BLUES, or any depression ...... there is something wrong with them. And any "doctor" who does not recognize that is an incompetent QUACK.

  5. Cambodia
    Pol Pot came to power in 1975, "By 1959, Prince Sihanouk had begun to seriously repress leftist political movements", the main justification for Pol Pot massacres were that the people killed were French and American collaborators. He did not pass the Gun Laws
    Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as was the possession of ammunition."[4]
    The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.[5]
    Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.[5]
    The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[4]
    Because world "Jewry" had declared war on Germany in March 1933 in the New York Times, Jews were not permitted to manufacture trade or own firearms in Germany. (remembering the Grand Duke and Sarajevo). Hitler removed many of the gun laws.
    Mao, like Hitler, inherited gun control from his predecessor's regime. A 1912 Chinese law made it illegal to import or possess rifles, cannons, or explosives without a permit. Mao did not pass the gun laws.
    In October 1918, the Council of People's Commissars (the government) ordered the surrender of all firearms, ammunition, and sabres, Stalin then took over around 1925-7, and then also outlawed the possession of Knives.
    I do not believe that guns should be registered or controlled in any way, (yes Penelope, you can have a nuclear device if you can build it) but throwing away truth and presenting lies to justify a position, weakens and invalidates the basis for your arguments.

  6. Moral of the story is to not trust a government that has a red flag.

  7. -.- reading this makes my eyes hurt... 2nd amendment rights? the second amendment promises a WELL REGULATED MILITIA. that doesn't mean you can give guns to everyone and everything. besides, back when the constitutuion was written, they had one-load one-shot guns. not like the automatic weapons we have today. And don't even get me started about how you match Obama up to Stalin and Hitler.