Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Silver and Gold Liberty Dollars Can be Confiscated by the Federal Government now - Except if using for Educational display.



So it has begun.

The Federal government has determined it can and will confiscate all Silver and Gold Liberty Dollars that are displayed openly and not for educational uses only in displays.  In other words all the Liberty Dollars in stores on Ebay for sale can/will be confiscated by the federal government.

There was a trial earlier this year in North Carolina against Bernard von NotHaus, the founder and creator of the Liberty Dollar.  He was convicted by a jury for creating an alternate currency.  The Liberty dollars are now considered counterfeits, contraband and subject to seizure.

This is so totally outrageous!  This is simply an excuse for the government to try and get as much silver and gold they can from the public and desperation on the part of the government.

The Liberty Dollars did not resemble any coin in the U.S. nor did it bill itself as an alternate currency.  It has and was a collectors coin of pure silver and gold.

Here is a picture of the Silver Eagle, which the Liberty Dollar does not resemble at all.






 portions of the article:

Rose served as lead prosecutor in the Bernard von NotHaus case. Von NotHaus, creator of the Liberty Dollars, was convicted in federal court in March on multiple charges involving the alternative currency.
Rose said because von NotHaus’ conviction included violations of Sections 485 and 486 of Title 18 of the United States Code, the Liberty Dollar medallions were determined to be counterfeits, contraband and subject to seizure.
ANA officials also spoke with officials of the United States Mint. The U.S. Mint’s legal counsel, Daniel P. Shaver, referred ANA officials to the U.S. Secret Service.

As a result of not receiving a written declaration on federal agency letterhead permitting their display, ANA officials denied Zylstra the opportunity to exhibit the Liberty Dollars at the ANA convention over concerns the medallic contents of the exhibit could be seized.

Bieda said he has not seen any indication from federal authorities that they plan a concerted move to confiscate privately held Liberty Dollars.

“I note that the pieces are being sold and traded on on-line auction sites such as eBay, and have personally seen these pieces sold at local coin shows and coin shops, all without any apparent legal consequence,” Bieda said. “Thus, it would be my recommendation that should an exhibitor want to place an exhibit involving these pieces, and assuming that all the other relevant exhibitor criteria is satisfied, that they be allowed to do so.
“In any event, the hosting numismatic association would not be responsible should the federal government or any other legal authority take legal action or move to confiscate that or any other exhibit. That risk is entirely on the exhibitor.”

Following a six-day trial, on March 18, a federal jury in Statesville, N.C., convicted von NotHaus — founder of NORFED (National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve and the Internal Revenue Code), its subsequent Liberty Services, and monetary architect of the Liberty Dollar — of conspiracy against the United States; making coins resembling and similar to U.S. coins; of issuing, passing, selling and possessing Liberty Dollar coins; and of issuing and passing Liberty Dollar coins intended for use as current money.

10 comments:

  1. The true educational value is in showing what a fascist, authoritarian POS the US government has become.

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  2. I'd like to know where they found a 'jury of his peers' that would convict him.

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  3. I agree with anonymous, these coins did no harm, they are novelty coins, and actually saves the U.S. Mint some work, such fools our government is.

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  4. (1) MELT THEM
    (2) BURY THEM until the "CHANGE" happens.
    What is the big deal?

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  5. We all need to go back to a non-currency based barter system trading items or services with intrinsic value for other items or services with intrinsic value. It is the only way we can keep the criminals in congress and the other government offices out of our pockets.

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  6. Hi Sherrie,

    "Except if using for Educational display. " is wrong, I believe.

    http://www.coinworld.com/articles/liberty-dollars-may-be-subject-to-seizure/

    The article from coin world reads:

    'Jill Rose, chief of the criminal division for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Charlotte, N.C., told Coin World Aug. 24 thatthe Liberty Dollar medallions are confiscable as contraband regardless if they are being exhibited for educational purposes only.'

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  7. What happened to the guy? Is he in jail and for how long?

    Where is he?

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  8. Alex, to me educational exhibit is the same as educational display. To me they are the same thing, just different words.

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  9. Anon -

    From the article it says this about him:

    "Von NotHaus is free on bond pending sentencing."

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