Wednesday, February 23, 2011

**ALERT** FAKE Silver Coins/Bars/Ingots ARE on the market in U.S.!

Fake Morgan Silver Dollars ( photo by Peninsula Daily News)


I had posted about how Tungsten is up 70% in the last year and inserted a video showing fake gold and a video with David Morgan of Silver-Investor discussing fake gold and silver.  Last week during the interview David Morgan did with me, he talked about fake gold and silver possibly being on the market, besides other information about it.  He also said in the interview, if there will be any fake silver coins they will fake the old coins and not new ones.  WOW - he got that one exactly right!

Gold  has been a given in regards to possibly being fake due to the price of it!  It is well worth an organization (ie: Fed, govt) to fake besides the price, they are pretending there is much more gold than there really is.

With silver, the cost of faking it compared to the cost of the metal itself has not made it such a likely candidate as gold is.  But times have been changing and in my opinion will be really changing in the not too distant future!  In fact this next month - March, there will hopefully be fireworks going off at the Comex. The physical Silver market is tight, all the experts are saying that.  So it was simply a matter of time before fake silver began getting on the market.

We did not have to wait too long, Fake Silver is now here!

There is Fake Silver on the market now!  The coins are Morgan Silver Dollars dating all the way back to the 1880's and are in pawn shops, besides who knows where else!  I would assume it is not just the U.S. that has Fake Silver but also other places in the world too.

A pawn shop in Washington State got a shipment of Morgan Silver Dollars in and felt something was not right about them.  They called in a policeman, who could not tell what was wrong with them, until he was told they were fake.

The silver has an iron core and so people WILL be able to tell a Fake Silver coin by using a magnet! If a strong magnet is attracted to the coin it is fake!   A real silver coin will not attract a magnet but fake ones will!  Also a Fake Silver coin will thud when dropped compared to a high pitched ring of a real one, dropped!

Article:


PORT ANGELES, Wash. - Counterfeit coins by the thousands are turning up in Washington state, and authorities are warning coin collectors to be on the lookout for them.

All or most of the counterfeits appear to be from China.

"Stacks of ingots, bars, all kinds of stuff - they make everything from pennies all the way up to silver dollars," says Port Angeles police officer Duane Benedict. "China is making these things by the thousands."

Several of the fake coins were recently sold to a Port Angeles business, EZ Pawn, for $400. They would have been worth more than $1,500 had they been real, Benedict said.

Officer Benedict got a call from EZ Pawn.

"They brought me in there to look at something they thought was fake. So I was pre-warned. But I picked it up and said, 'What's fake about it?'"

The 20 counterfeit U.S. Morgan silver dollars were supposedly from a century ago. Brian Winters of EZ Pawn has bought coins for years - and even he was fooled.

Unlike most counterfeits, the coins did not all have the same dates. One was a super rare 1893S, worth thousands and thousands.

It was at that time Brian pulled out a loupe and looked at a real coin and a suspect one. He found the "T" and the "I" too thick. All the coins were fake.

The real coin weighed in at 26.7 grams. The fake was two grams lighter.

For those of us without a gram scale - there are other tests for detecting the counterfeit coins.

The real ones have a high-pitched ring when they're dropped. The counterfeits land with a thud.

Also - a strong magnet will detect small amounts of iron in counterfeit U.S. coins. If a supposedly "silver" coin has even a little bit of attraction to the magnet, then it is a fake, Benedict says.

The counterfeits aren't just limited to silver dollars. Other coins - including Indian head pennies - also have turned out to be fakes.

And EZ Pawn says they're continuing to see fake coins brought in by other customers.

And Benedict warns businesses to be suspicious if someone uses only coins to pay for merchandise.

"Use caution if someone brings in a lot of coins to buy something, and look them over carefully," Benedict said.

Personally, I would beware of buying any metals on Ebay or any place I can not touch and feel the metals and completely check them out before purchasing them!  Buyer Beware!  Take precautions, check out listings on Craigslist in your area. Buy from local people and online metal companies who get their coins directly from the mints and guarantee the Silver content!

EDIT - I just looked on my local Craigslist and I believe there is an ad there for Morgan Silver dollars that are possibly the fake Morgan Silver Dollars.  The coins are in plastic holders and they are very shiny!  So, people will be selling them on Craigslist too - when looking at any coins in person - Take them OUT of the holders!  If the owner does not want them taken out of the holders so you can check them out more thoroughly - then WALK AWAY!  

Here is the local listing on craigslist - to me this fits the bill perfectly as being FAKE Morgan Silver Dollars! I am not saying they are fake for sure, as I do not know, but they simply look like they could be.  http://knoxville.craigslist.org/clt/2228662072.html
**UPDATE 2/25/11 - The above link was deleted by seller - but the same ad for the same coins is now here and it reads exactly the same - it is a new ad for the Morgan Silver Dollars**
http://knoxville.craigslist.org/clt/2235477170.html
Edit - I just did a short youtube video about it, for those who would rather hear about it then read about it.




Edit to add  video showing magnetic test on a Silver bar



Adding a Ring Test for Silver



Edit to add - David Morgan had come in and answered someone's question below about the magnetic properties of metals, due to the video versus the information about magnets sticking to silver etc. He inserted this link for information:
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy05/phy05054.htm

13 comments:

  1. Well, now we know how J. P. Morgan got out of that naked short situation!

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  2. True! Also we know why they continue to have silver and gold bars in the Comex for delivery. Of course they can blame China for it and act like they have nothing to do with it.

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  3. Yea

    and now we know why good-ol lightbulbs have gone out of style, all the tungsten is sitting in fort knox !
    thanks to Buzzy Krongard and Dov the Croc.

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  4. What??

    Article says "If a strong magnet is attracted to the coin it is fake!"

    Video says at about 1:40 regarding the magnet on the fake bar "it slides right on down"

    Which is it?

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  5. I noticed that too, I have a call into someone - what is the facts of how to tell. I was wondering if the video guy got it wrong.

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  6. David Morgan here,

    Sherrie Happy to post the following...

    Numerous metals are not ferromagnetic. Common examples are copper,
    silver, aluminum, lead, magnesium, platinum and tungsten. All
    materials, however, react to magnetic fields in one of three ways:

    See: http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy05/phy05054.htm

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  7. Numerous metals are not ferromagnetic. Common examples are copper, silver, platinum and tungsten. All materials, however, react to magnetic fields in one of three ways:


    When an external magnetic field is applied in diamagnetic materials, such as copper, lead, and silver, the atoms have no permanent magnetic moment. The effect of an external magnetic field is small (similar to paramagnetic materials) and in the opposite direction.

    David Morgan -- again...

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  8. Moving a magnet across an excellent conductor like silver generates a current that produces a magnetic field to counter the magnet's effect. It's a common physics demonstration.

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  9. "
    Personally, I would beware of buying any metals on Ebay or any place I can not touch and feel the metals and completely check them out before purchasing them!"

    Why would you not recommend buying on eBay? If you do get a fake paypal will side with you and you will get your money back.

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  10. I have already had Paypal rip me off and I don't believe buy Morgans off Ebay is a good idea when you can not check out the coin, since there are fake ones on the market.

    Eagles - Maple Leafs - Pandas those are all from the mint and a different story.

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  11. sherrie excellent post, i remember the same thing happening when those boys from texas played the market. thanks for sounding the alarm

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  12. It's really bad news and I can't believe that fake coins in the USA.

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